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I purchased and planted a black passionfruit plant way back in September 2005. The vines now creep onto a trellis measuring 5metres x 2.5metres. It seems quite healthy as the vines have almost covered the entire trellis and the base is approx 6cm in diameter thick. I have been watering twice a week (within water restriction guidelines) and fertilising with cow manure every 3 months. To date, I have only seen TWO passionfruit, and they fell off last year before they got to the size of golf balls. I approached a local nursery and they reckoned that I need to feed it iron sulphate, which I did (only once). I was hoping to get more fruit but having just two in 3 years makes me wonder if I should pull it out. Please tell me if I am doing something wrong. I was told by friends to be patient, but 3 years???
I purchased and planted a black passionfruit plant way back in September 2005. The vines now creep onto a trellis measuring 5metres x 2.5metres. It seems quite healthy as the vines have almost covered the entire trellis and the base is approx 6cm in diameter thick. I have been watering twice a week (within water restriction guidelines) and fertilising with cow manure every 3 months. To date, I have only seen TWO passionfruit, and they fell off last year before they got to the size of golf balls. I approached a local nursery and they reckoned that I need to feed it iron sulphate, which I did (only once). I was hoping to get more fruit but having just two in 3 years makes me wonder if I should pull it out. Please tell me if I am doing something wrong. I was told by friends to be patient, but 3 years???
Henry
Blacktown NSW
17th May 2008 2:54pm
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Anonymous
18th May 2008 9:29am
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Dekka says...
Henry, aside from your couple of fruit, does it produce many flowers? If not, then my guess would be that an over supply of Nitrogen is promoting the abundance of leaves (which your vine clearly has) over flower production. You only need Iron if the new leaves begin to turn yellow between the leaf veins. Potash at the end of winter should work but I would definitely lay off the Nitrogen and you'll probably get a bumper crop.
Henry, aside from your couple of fruit, does it produce many flowers? If not, then my guess would be that an over supply of Nitrogen is promoting the abundance of leaves (which your vine clearly has) over flower production. You only need Iron if the new leaves begin to turn yellow between the leaf veins. Potash at the end of winter should work but I would definitely lay off the Nitrogen and you'll probably get a bumper crop.
Dekka
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18th May 2008 11:06am
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Correy says...
Hi Dekka I am in the same boat.
I have two passionfruits one black grafted and another is the panama red grafted.
the panama grafted one gets amazing crops and the black one flowers profusely but never sets fruit.
I am thinking that it is that the plant is rejecting it's own pollen or something because I have tried hand pollinating as well.
I did fertilize it with dynamic lifter which has nitrogen so maybe that was a bad thing. Then again I did it to both.
Hi Dekka I am in the same boat.
I have two passionfruits one black grafted and another is the panama red grafted.
the panama grafted one gets amazing crops and the black one flowers profusely but never sets fruit.
I am thinking that it is that the plant is rejecting it's own pollen or something because I have tried hand pollinating as well.
I did fertilize it with dynamic lifter which has nitrogen so maybe that was a bad thing. Then again I did it to both.
Correy
Woolloongabba, QLD
18th May 2008 3:14pm
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peter says...
same thing with my nellie kelly black passionfruit.
plenty of flowers but no fruit,
not even with hand pollination.
what is happening now is that the bits that are supposed to have the pollen on them dont have any, they are dry a
bit shinny and smooth.
the panama gold along side it develops
dry powdery pollen throughout the day
that you can wipe off with a brush.
same thing with my nellie kelly black passionfruit.
plenty of flowers but no fruit,
not even with hand pollination.
what is happening now is that the bits that are supposed to have the pollen on them dont have any, they are dry a
bit shinny and smooth.
the panama gold along side it develops
dry powdery pollen throughout the day
that you can wipe off with a brush.
peter
adelaide
18th May 2008 4:28pm
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Dekka says...
The most common reasons for passionfruit vines having an abundance of flowers but no fruit are:-
1. Lack of pollinators, i.e, bees.
2. Temperatures too hot or cold during flowering.
3. Long periods of overcast weather during flowering
4. Lack of Boron.
One other reason for a lack of fruit on grafted vines can sometimes be that the vigorous rootstock has sprouted and outgrown the scion without the grower realising.
The most common reasons for passionfruit vines having an abundance of flowers but no fruit are:-
1. Lack of pollinators, i.e, bees.
2. Temperatures too hot or cold during flowering.
3. Long periods of overcast weather during flowering
4. Lack of Boron.
One other reason for a lack of fruit on grafted vines can sometimes be that the vigorous rootstock has sprouted and outgrown the scion without the grower realising.
Dekka
Newcastle
18th May 2008 6:54pm
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peter
adelaide
18th May 2008 9:15pm
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Dekka says...
I did some looking around the net last night and unfortunately the general vibe is that sometimes (and quite mysteriously) passionfruit just won't satifactorily produce fruit. Don Burke's site suggests that you ignore the offending vine and plant a new one as they are only good for 3 to 5 years at most; being careful not to over water.
Another interesting tidbit is that some passionfruit vines will often develop little spots and lumps on the foliage which can appear to be disease. It is, however, a deterent to Heliconine butterflies that lay eggs singly on the plant. When the butterfly sees the spots it apparently assumes that the vine is already covered in eggs and moves elsewhere.
I did some looking around the net last night and unfortunately the general vibe is that sometimes (and quite mysteriously) passionfruit just won't satifactorily produce fruit. Don Burke's site suggests that you ignore the offending vine and plant a new one as they are only good for 3 to 5 years at most; being careful not to over water.
Another interesting tidbit is that some passionfruit vines will often develop little spots and lumps on the foliage which can appear to be disease. It is, however, a deterent to Heliconine butterflies that lay eggs singly on the plant. When the butterfly sees the spots it apparently assumes that the vine is already covered in eggs and moves elsewhere.
Dekka
Newcastle
19th May 2008 11:30am
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Henry says...
Yes, my black passionfruit vine does have lots of flowers, but then the flowers drop off. Dekka recommends potash at the end of winter while anonymous suggest I start all over again. The flowers are so close that if anything, they would have been pollinated. Lots of bees around too. I have been fertilising with bagged cow manure, but to no avail. Doesn't my pic show a healthy passionfruit vine? Help!!!!!!
Yes, my black passionfruit vine does have lots of flowers, but then the flowers drop off. Dekka recommends potash at the end of winter while anonymous suggest I start all over again. The flowers are so close that if anything, they would have been pollinated. Lots of bees around too. I have been fertilising with bagged cow manure, but to no avail. Doesn't my pic show a healthy passionfruit vine? Help!!!!!!
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Henry
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19th May 2008 1:57pm
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19th May 2008 3:23pm
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Andy says...
I have a similar problem with my grafted, black passionfruit. New growth is green but fades to yellowish in a few weeks (see image). It rarely produces flowers and definitely no fruit. It gets plenty of sun and watered regularly (twice a week).I have tried slow-release fertiliser and well as trace elements over the past few months, all to no avail.
I have a similar problem with my grafted, black passionfruit. New growth is green but fades to yellowish in a few weeks (see image). It rarely produces flowers and definitely no fruit. It gets plenty of sun and watered regularly (twice a week).I have tried slow-release fertiliser and well as trace elements over the past few months, all to no avail.
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Mooloolaba
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James says...
Andy, it is clear from the photo that your rootstock has taken over from the scion, as the Nelly Kelly passionfruit leaf is oval in shape... with the rootstock variety having a trifoliate or palmate shape. It is really important to keep an eye on the plant during the early stages, knocking off all shoots coming from the rootstock, because it will happen without you realising it. If you want fruit you are going to have start again I'm afraid
Andy, it is clear from the photo that your rootstock has taken over from the scion, as the Nelly Kelly passionfruit leaf is oval in shape... with the rootstock variety having a trifoliate or palmate shape. It is really important to keep an eye on the plant during the early stages, knocking off all shoots coming from the rootstock, because it will happen without you realising it. If you want fruit you are going to have start again I'm afraid
James
Geelong
13th December 2008 3:18pm
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Jantina says...
James, my black passionfruit (ungrafted) has leaves on it like Andy has and it also has produced lovely black passionfruit on that growth. Rootstock does have trifoliate leaves, but so does banana passionfruit and my black one certainly has. I think if you look very closely you will see that although they are all trifoliate they are all a bit different. Perhaps the oval leaves are immature because my black one had oval leaves when younger. I might of course be completely wrong but I do have all three and went out to check them before writing this.
James, my black passionfruit (ungrafted) has leaves on it like Andy has and it also has produced lovely black passionfruit on that growth. Rootstock does have trifoliate leaves, but so does banana passionfruit and my black one certainly has. I think if you look very closely you will see that although they are all trifoliate they are all a bit different. Perhaps the oval leaves are immature because my black one had oval leaves when younger. I might of course be completely wrong but I do have all three and went out to check them before writing this.
Jantina
Mt. Gambier S.A.
13th December 2008 6:12pm
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Anonymous says...
My Nelly Kelly has trifoliate leaves and they're from the section above the graft point.
Mind you I'm ticked off with mine because it isn't growing so I've put a seedling in a couple of metres away. The Nelly is on notice now- there's only one trellis and it's Who dares Wins...........
My Nelly Kelly has trifoliate leaves and they're from the section above the graft point.
Mind you I'm ticked off with mine because it isn't growing so I've put a seedling in a couple of metres away. The Nelly is on notice now- there's only one trellis and it's Who dares Wins...........
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15th December 2008 1:59pm
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Sharon says...
Hi
My Nelly Kelly has tons of fruit , but they turn yellow when they get to about half size. I,ve tried everything I can think off to remedy this problem.They are both grafted plants and we made sure there were no shoots from the root stock remaining as it grew. Has the root stock still taken over? or am I missing something?The plants are 2 years old.
Hi
My Nelly Kelly has tons of fruit , but they turn yellow when they get to about half size. I,ve tried everything I can think off to remedy this problem.They are both grafted plants and we made sure there were no shoots from the root stock remaining as it grew. Has the root stock still taken over? or am I missing something?The plants are 2 years old.
Sharon
Rendelsham SA
30th December 2008 8:47pm
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peter
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30th December 2008 9:29pm
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Vicki says...
Mine is a Nelly Kelly grafted black passionfruit. The flowers dropped off without fertilizing. I hand fertilized and now have many fruit. The fruit drops off and doesnt seem to be turning purple. If I open the dropped off fruit it is good inside with passionfruit pulp just not as sweet as when they turn black. It is crazy. I think these grafted varieties are not all they are cracked up to be.
Mine is a Nelly Kelly grafted black passionfruit. The flowers dropped off without fertilizing. I hand fertilized and now have many fruit. The fruit drops off and doesnt seem to be turning purple. If I open the dropped off fruit it is good inside with passionfruit pulp just not as sweet as when they turn black. It is crazy. I think these grafted varieties are not all they are cracked up to be.
Vicki
Wollongong
25th January 2009 11:25am
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peter
adelaide
25th January 2009 4:05pm
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Wollongong
25th January 2009 4:42pm
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Sharon says...
No they were suppose to be Nelly Kelly Black.I`ve opened one and they are red inside and don`t taste like a passion fruit but are sweet.Not very nice all the same and not a lot of pulp. They fall off the vine as they yellow.They have had plenty of water so its not that.I planted two vines at the same time and they are both the same.
Thank you
No they were suppose to be Nelly Kelly Black.I`ve opened one and they are red inside and don`t taste like a passion fruit but are sweet.Not very nice all the same and not a lot of pulp. They fall off the vine as they yellow.They have had plenty of water so its not that.I planted two vines at the same time and they are both the same.
Thank you
Sharon
Rendelsham SA
25th January 2009 8:22pm
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adelaide
25th January 2009 9:07pm
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Vicki says...
I think my nelly kelly has been mislabelled. I cant find a picture on the internet of nelly kelly pananma gold so cant tell. I found one fruit on the ground quite yellow and it tasted fine. Still they are dropping before they turn a true yellow. I dont mind as long as I know what is happening. The vine is healthy. Just dont self fertilise and dont stay long enough to go yellow. An unruly child to say the least.
I think my nelly kelly has been mislabelled. I cant find a picture on the internet of nelly kelly pananma gold so cant tell. I found one fruit on the ground quite yellow and it tasted fine. Still they are dropping before they turn a true yellow. I dont mind as long as I know what is happening. The vine is healthy. Just dont self fertilise and dont stay long enough to go yellow. An unruly child to say the least.
Vicki
Wollongong
26th January 2009 9:52am
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Dave & Bez says...
Similar situation hereto, Year 1 .. Grafted Black produced 12 fruit Panama Red zero.
Year 2 .. Both Flowered but no fruit.
Year 3 .. G Blk flowers but no fruit.
P Red 2 doz fruit but green skin and bitter taste.
Year 4 .. G Blk plenty flowers but no fruit. P Red 3 doz fruit(photo 31/1/09) green skin white pithy inside & sour taste.
only half dozen bees on the job.
Avg Rainfall 60 mm per mth .. cow manure & plant food twice / yr.
Looks like we shall dig up and try again!
Similar situation hereto, Year 1 .. Grafted Black produced 12 fruit Panama Red zero.
Year 2 .. Both Flowered but no fruit.
Year 3 .. G Blk flowers but no fruit.
P Red 2 doz fruit but green skin and bitter taste.
Year 4 .. G Blk plenty flowers but no fruit. P Red 3 doz fruit(photo 31/1/09) green skin white pithy inside & sour taste.
only half dozen bees on the job.
Avg Rainfall 60 mm per mth .. cow manure & plant food twice / yr.
Looks like we shall dig up and try again!
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Jantina says...
Personally I have given up on grafted passionfruit ,I think they are way over rated and once the rootstock gets a foothold you can be pulling it up for a year. Now I just grow ungrafted black passionfruit and find it much hardier, gives me good fruit and doesn't have a rootstock that wants to take over the world. You can either buy an ungrafted one (but Nelly Kelly tends to rule at nurseries) or grow one yourself from seed (easy).
Personally I have given up on grafted passionfruit ,I think they are way over rated and once the rootstock gets a foothold you can be pulling it up for a year. Now I just grow ungrafted black passionfruit and find it much hardier, gives me good fruit and doesn't have a rootstock that wants to take over the world. You can either buy an ungrafted one (but Nelly Kelly tends to rule at nurseries) or grow one yourself from seed (easy).
Jantina
Mt. Gambier S.A.
1st February 2009 9:17am
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allan says...
Vicki, Nelly Kelly passion fruit nurseries are located in Dingley Melbourne suburb. They have grafted the Panama red and yellow onto a f root stock. It is sold thru Bunnings as Nelly Kelly Passion fruit - Panama Red or Gold or the Grafted black (their original) So a Nelly Kelly these days do not automatically mean a black passion fruit. They have grafted the Panama type 15 yrs ago.
Vicki, Nelly Kelly passion fruit nurseries are located in Dingley Melbourne suburb. They have grafted the Panama red and yellow onto a f root stock. It is sold thru Bunnings as Nelly Kelly Passion fruit - Panama Red or Gold or the Grafted black (their original) So a Nelly Kelly these days do not automatically mean a black passion fruit. They have grafted the Panama type 15 yrs ago.
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1st February 2009 11:00pm
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Joop. says...
My garden is a large balcony(64sqm) and I have 2 Passion fruit plants(grafted)
1 Nelly Kelly-Black
1 Red Passion fruit
They are in pots and I water frequently and fertilize every fortnight,this is the second year now and I haven't seen a flower yet.They get plenty of sun so that can't the problem but get a fair bit of wind.What do I do wrong?
I do appreciate advise.Thanks.
My garden is a large balcony(64sqm) and I have 2 Passion fruit plants(grafted)
1 Nelly Kelly-Black
1 Red Passion fruit
They are in pots and I water frequently and fertilize every fortnight,this is the second year now and I haven't seen a flower yet.They get plenty of sun so that can't the problem but get a fair bit of wind.What do I do wrong?
I do appreciate advise.Thanks.
Joop.
Penrith NSW
2nd February 2009 10:17am
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Tak says...
I also am growing 2 Nellie Kelly passionfruit (Black and Gold grafted)
Have not fertilised, apart from some mushroom compost.
I've yet to see a flower after about 15 months. Getting frustrated with these plants and want to rip them out!
Does anyone know if this is normal, or what I should be doing?
I also am growing 2 Nellie Kelly passionfruit (Black and Gold grafted)
Have not fertilised, apart from some mushroom compost.
I've yet to see a flower after about 15 months. Getting frustrated with these plants and want to rip them out!
Does anyone know if this is normal, or what I should be doing?
Tak
Melbourne
2nd February 2009 10:23am
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adelaide
2nd February 2009 5:47pm
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Andy says...
To Vicki
Like yours, all the fruit on my mislabeled passionfruit fell to the ground as they started to turn yellowish. I left them in the kitchen and they all turned deep red within a day or two. Tasted great, very sweet, but not much pulp. My mislabeled passionfruit is probably a Panama Red. Still a bit of a mystery why they all fell off, but the fruit tasted great.
To Vicki
Like yours, all the fruit on my mislabeled passionfruit fell to the ground as they started to turn yellowish. I left them in the kitchen and they all turned deep red within a day or two. Tasted great, very sweet, but not much pulp. My mislabeled passionfruit is probably a Panama Red. Still a bit of a mystery why they all fell off, but the fruit tasted great.
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Sunshine Coast
2nd February 2009 8:55pm
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Penrith NSW
4th February 2009 10:23pm
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Altona Meadows
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8th February 2009 4:52pm
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Vicki says...
Hi, thanks all. I have decided mine are panama gold. I hand pollinate and have tons of fruit now. I leave them a day or two after they fall off the vine and they are mostly delicious. The odd one is ordinary. I agree with Janita. I wont buy a grafted variety again. I once had one grow wild over a shed in the backyard of a house we were renovating. I didn't plant it it just grew. It had the best purple passionfruit. I dont look forward to the day I have to pull the plant out. This plant was definitely labelled black grafted. The fruit is good though. Mine was planted over a piece of liver which gave it a really good start in life.
Hi, thanks all. I have decided mine are panama gold. I hand pollinate and have tons of fruit now. I leave them a day or two after they fall off the vine and they are mostly delicious. The odd one is ordinary. I agree with Janita. I wont buy a grafted variety again. I once had one grow wild over a shed in the backyard of a house we were renovating. I didn't plant it it just grew. It had the best purple passionfruit. I dont look forward to the day I have to pull the plant out. This plant was definitely labelled black grafted. The fruit is good though. Mine was planted over a piece of liver which gave it a really good start in life.
Vicki
Wollongong
13th February 2009 2:17pm
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BARRY says...
Ihave two Nellie Kelly vines growing along the fence one has a small tri figure leaf witch had about nine fruit on it the other has a large leaf and has never flowered both have plenty of foliage on them and been fertilised with cow manure and potash my question is why is one flowering and the other is not
Ihave two Nellie Kelly vines growing along the fence one has a small tri figure leaf witch had about nine fruit on it the other has a large leaf and has never flowered both have plenty of foliage on them and been fertilised with cow manure and potash my question is why is one flowering and the other is not
BARRY
Melbourne
9th March 2009 5:45pm
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Melton
9th March 2009 7:29pm
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15th March 2009 10:02am
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gary says...
after reading this forum i decided i had to act.the problem was the fruit was yellow soft skinned & the pulp was red & didn't taste that good.there was plenty of them even the birds didn't want to attact them.i went down to the vines today i have 3 of them the purple one,panama gold & panama red all side by side.it was panama red that had sent suckers up everywhere.i cut & pulled out all the suckers there is not much of the 3 plants left.i'm happy i did this as in this forum i learnt that passionfruit only 3 to 5 years & since these vines are 2 & 3 years old what have i got to lose.i put potash around them & now i'll sit back & wait to see what happens
after reading this forum i decided i had to act.the problem was the fruit was yellow soft skinned & the pulp was red & didn't taste that good.there was plenty of them even the birds didn't want to attact them.i went down to the vines today i have 3 of them the purple one,panama gold & panama red all side by side.it was panama red that had sent suckers up everywhere.i cut & pulled out all the suckers there is not much of the 3 plants left.i'm happy i did this as in this forum i learnt that passionfruit only 3 to 5 years & since these vines are 2 & 3 years old what have i got to lose.i put potash around them & now i'll sit back & wait to see what happens
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eildon
15th March 2009 6:31pm
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Batty
Perth
16th March 2009 11:15am
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Leona says...
hi, you can get grafted and seed grown ones in both panamas and black passionfruit...Nelly Kelly is just the growers name, not a type. I prefer those grown from seed as they dont sucker. They do take a little longer to fruit but not that long. I am in Perth and the black passionfruit I have is doing much better than my panamas...its full of fruit at the moment.
hi, you can get grafted and seed grown ones in both panamas and black passionfruit...Nelly Kelly is just the growers name, not a type. I prefer those grown from seed as they dont sucker. They do take a little longer to fruit but not that long. I am in Perth and the black passionfruit I have is doing much better than my panamas...its full of fruit at the moment.
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16th March 2009 12:42pm
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Perth
16th March 2009 3:15pm
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Jantina says...
Hi Batty, you can buy a nice big ripe black passion fruit from the greengrocer and leave it in the fruit bowl until it is all dried out and shrivelled and then plant the seeds from it. I have had much, much better performances from good old seed grown black passionfruit than any suckering Nelly Kelly.
Hi Batty, you can buy a nice big ripe black passion fruit from the greengrocer and leave it in the fruit bowl until it is all dried out and shrivelled and then plant the seeds from it. I have had much, much better performances from good old seed grown black passionfruit than any suckering Nelly Kelly.
Jantina
Mt. Gambier S.A.
16th March 2009 4:32pm
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allan says...
Bunnings in Melb. sells potted Nelly Kelly grafted passion fruit - 3 varieties. Grafted Black, Grafted Panama Gold and Grafted Panama Red. As Leona stated, Nelly Kelly is a name of a passionfruit nursery in a Melb. suburb Dingley. You can phone them and discuss your problems. I doubt that they sell seeds - never seen themsold in packets.
Bunnings in Melb. sells potted Nelly Kelly grafted passion fruit - 3 varieties. Grafted Black, Grafted Panama Gold and Grafted Panama Red. As Leona stated, Nelly Kelly is a name of a passionfruit nursery in a Melb. suburb Dingley. You can phone them and discuss your problems. I doubt that they sell seeds - never seen themsold in packets.
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melbourne
16th March 2009 4:43pm
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Perth
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Bellbowrie
18th March 2009 3:02pm
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Johnc says...
It appears that we all have similar problems with our passion fruit. i hope a horticulturist or passion fruit "expert" can come on board and give us some answers. Anyone like that out there????
I have a grafted granadilla passion fruit which is very sweet and full of pulp when ripe . I have millons of flowers despite hand pollinating them, very few fruit. The second year had one fruit , 3rd year 2 fruit, but this 4th year had 30...but the fruit had changed and instead of the thin skin before, it is nearly 2 cm thick and the fruit is not as sweet as before but still sweet. Some of the fruit is also splitting from the bottom . This is a sign that it has too much water...so I was told by one of the nurseries I went to. Some of the fruit got deformed half way and drops after a short while.
The vines also started to lose a lot of leaves but the tips are still green. It also started flowering profusely again, but they all dropped after a couple of days.Some of the younger fruit have stopped growing and remained small,while the others are ripening and yellowing.
So does anyone know for sure what is happening to fruit changing the way it did. 2 cm thick skin in that fruit is quite a lot. ...when it is supposed to be thin skinned.
It appears that we all have similar problems with our passion fruit. i hope a horticulturist or passion fruit "expert" can come on board and give us some answers. Anyone like that out there????
I have a grafted granadilla passion fruit which is very sweet and full of pulp when ripe . I have millons of flowers despite hand pollinating them, very few fruit. The second year had one fruit , 3rd year 2 fruit, but this 4th year had 30...but the fruit had changed and instead of the thin skin before, it is nearly 2 cm thick and the fruit is not as sweet as before but still sweet. Some of the fruit is also splitting from the bottom . This is a sign that it has too much water...so I was told by one of the nurseries I went to. Some of the fruit got deformed half way and drops after a short while.
The vines also started to lose a lot of leaves but the tips are still green. It also started flowering profusely again, but they all dropped after a couple of days.Some of the younger fruit have stopped growing and remained small,while the others are ripening and yellowing.
So does anyone know for sure what is happening to fruit changing the way it did. 2 cm thick skin in that fruit is quite a lot. ...when it is supposed to be thin skinned.
Johnc
Sydney
22nd March 2009 9:09pm
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paulaf says...
I did the same as Jantina.....Just planted a seed, and it has been the most productive, and disease resistant passionfruit I have had. I have just been out and counted over 70 passionfruits on the one vine. And the best thing is they don't sucker.
I did the same as Jantina.....Just planted a seed, and it has been the most productive, and disease resistant passionfruit I have had. I have just been out and counted over 70 passionfruits on the one vine. And the best thing is they don't sucker.
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SE Queensland
23rd March 2009 9:56am
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trikus says...
Most problems could be people trying to grow this vine in marginal areas . Or growing the wrong species or variety . I cut'n'pasted this from Rare Fruits Australia web site .
Description A new book has been published by Queensland DPI&F to help commercial passionfruit growers produce top quality fruit for consumers. The Passionfruit Problem-solver Field Guide is an 118-page booklet illustrated with 216 colour photographs covering the pests, diseases, disorders and beneficial insects of passionfruit in Australia.
Jeff Daniells and Roger Goebel provided assistance in its development. The booklet is suitable for use in the field being a handy pocket size and printed on tough waterproof paper.
Copies are available from DPI&F’s Maroochy Research Station (phone +61 7 54412211) for A$35 (+GST) plus postage and handling or email peter.rigden@dpi.qld.gov.au.
Most problems could be people trying to grow this vine in marginal areas . Or growing the wrong species or variety . I cut'n'pasted this from Rare Fruits Australia web site .
Description A new book has been published by Queensland DPI&F to help commercial passionfruit growers produce top quality fruit for consumers. The Passionfruit Problem-solver Field Guide is an 118-page booklet illustrated with 216 colour photographs covering the pests, diseases, disorders and beneficial insects of passionfruit in Australia.
Jeff Daniells and Roger Goebel provided assistance in its development. The booklet is suitable for use in the field being a handy pocket size and printed on tough waterproof paper.
Copies are available from DPI&F’s Maroochy Research Station (phone +61 7 54412211) for A$35 (+GST) plus postage and handling or email peter.rigden@dpi.qld.gov.au.
trikus
Tully
24th March 2009 8:31am
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au0rey says...
Jantina, I read with interest what u said about buying a passionfruit and getting seeds from there. I have seen nellie kelly passionfruit vines in bunnings but just dont dare to try them since I read about so many problems encountered. So I did buy a few passionfruits yesterday! Two which I have got have some wrinkled skin. Are the seeds supposed to be dried when I cut open the fruit in due time? Btw, do you some pictures of your lovely passionfruit vines which You have grown out from seeds which you mentioned? Do passionfruit vines need a lot of space. I have got an area with good sunlight.
Jantina, I read with interest what u said about buying a passionfruit and getting seeds from there. I have seen nellie kelly passionfruit vines in bunnings but just dont dare to try them since I read about so many problems encountered. So I did buy a few passionfruits yesterday! Two which I have got have some wrinkled skin. Are the seeds supposed to be dried when I cut open the fruit in due time? Btw, do you some pictures of your lovely passionfruit vines which You have grown out from seeds which you mentioned? Do passionfruit vines need a lot of space. I have got an area with good sunlight.
au0rey
melbourne
30th March 2009 3:33pm
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Jantina says...
Hi auOrey, I let the fruit get ripe and wrinkled open them up , clean off the pulp and plant. I have also had plants germinate under the vine from missed fallen fruit so they're pretty easy. Passionfruit when growing well can take up a fair bit of space but you can prune them back to keep them smaller if you don't have much space, as for pictures I'm a computer dud, I can do emails and surf the web but pictures are a bit out of my league ( I'm too scared to even use the digital camera my husband got me).
Hi auOrey, I let the fruit get ripe and wrinkled open them up , clean off the pulp and plant. I have also had plants germinate under the vine from missed fallen fruit so they're pretty easy. Passionfruit when growing well can take up a fair bit of space but you can prune them back to keep them smaller if you don't have much space, as for pictures I'm a computer dud, I can do emails and surf the web but pictures are a bit out of my league ( I'm too scared to even use the digital camera my husband got me).
Jantina
Mt. Gambier S.A.
30th March 2009 7:43pm
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au0rey
Melbourne
31st March 2009 6:35am
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jono says...
Hi all. I have read with interest the problems confronting many of the passionfruit growers. I have two vines growing Panama gold and red both purchased from Bunnings.The gold which is alittle over 12months old began fruiting last oct. after 4months the fruit appeared fully developed however was still green in colour with no show of changing to yellow.In frustration i removed one from the vine cut it open only to find the seeds were not fully developed and white in colour. A horticulturist friend of mine said to spray the vine with diluted milk low and behold within a few weeks of spraying the fruit began to ghange colour not yellow but crimson red (so much for panama gold.)I now find my second vine approx 6months old is fruiting as well. Maybe you could try milk on your vine as it seems to have aided in my vines fruiting. I may add that the skin of my fruit is about 5mm thick the pulp a sour sweet taste.The leaves are both trifolate and oval and rootstock has definitely not taken over.
Hi all. I have read with interest the problems confronting many of the passionfruit growers. I have two vines growing Panama gold and red both purchased from Bunnings.The gold which is alittle over 12months old began fruiting last oct. after 4months the fruit appeared fully developed however was still green in colour with no show of changing to yellow.In frustration i removed one from the vine cut it open only to find the seeds were not fully developed and white in colour. A horticulturist friend of mine said to spray the vine with diluted milk low and behold within a few weeks of spraying the fruit began to ghange colour not yellow but crimson red (so much for panama gold.)I now find my second vine approx 6months old is fruiting as well. Maybe you could try milk on your vine as it seems to have aided in my vines fruiting. I may add that the skin of my fruit is about 5mm thick the pulp a sour sweet taste.The leaves are both trifolate and oval and rootstock has definitely not taken over.
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newcastle
6th April 2009 8:10am
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Relly
Townsville
7th April 2009 3:57pm
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Tiggerbow says...
Hi all,
I have been reading this forum for a few weeks as I was considering buying a passionfruit vine and wanted all the info i could get.
I went to Bunnings (Maddington, WA) today to get my passionfruit, armed with the info I had picked up on the forum. I was looking for the traditional Nelly Kelly Black/Purple fruit.
I had a really really good look at the vines and I couldn't figure out the grafts, some had multiple shoots coming out of them. I then had a look at the Panama yellow and there was a plant that I could identify the graft propery from.
I think that some of the posts above may be correct, in that the rootstock has ovetaken the graft. This seems to be occuring as early as at the store you buy it from. On some of the plants I couldn't figure out what was graft and what was rootstock. I suggest when purchasing these plants to have a really really good look at them. I ended up with a Panama yellow - hopefully I will have a bumper crop of passionfruit in the future !.
Hi all,
I have been reading this forum for a few weeks as I was considering buying a passionfruit vine and wanted all the info i could get.
I went to Bunnings (Maddington, WA) today to get my passionfruit, armed with the info I had picked up on the forum. I was looking for the traditional Nelly Kelly Black/Purple fruit.
I had a really really good look at the vines and I couldn't figure out the grafts, some had multiple shoots coming out of them. I then had a look at the Panama yellow and there was a plant that I could identify the graft propery from.
I think that some of the posts above may be correct, in that the rootstock has ovetaken the graft. This seems to be occuring as early as at the store you buy it from. On some of the plants I couldn't figure out what was graft and what was rootstock. I suggest when purchasing these plants to have a really really good look at them. I ended up with a Panama yellow - hopefully I will have a bumper crop of passionfruit in the future !.
Tiggerbow
Perth, WA
18th April 2009 6:33pm
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Peter Myers says...
The nurseries in Qld are selling grafted black passionfruits even though they never do any good.
Best to grow from seed - red & yellow types in warm areas, black in cooler areas.
Just plant the seeds from sweet & healthy vines.
Vines need to be replaced every few years as diseases build up, so plant a few seeds each year.
The nurseries in Qld are selling grafted black passionfruits even though they never do any good.
Best to grow from seed - red & yellow types in warm areas, black in cooler areas.
Just plant the seeds from sweet & healthy vines.
Vines need to be replaced every few years as diseases build up, so plant a few seeds each year.
Peter Myers
Childers
18th April 2009 8:10pm
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Liyarra says...
Now you have me worried!!! We planted 2 supposedly grafted black vines last year (2008) and all of a sudden in March this year they went beserk and are now holding over 100 fruit. The fruit and plants look quite healthy but are they likely to ripen at this stage of the year?
The fruit is quite large...maybe this is not a black after all???
What is the difference in the taste?
Thanks.
Now you have me worried!!! We planted 2 supposedly grafted black vines last year (2008) and all of a sudden in March this year they went beserk and are now holding over 100 fruit. The fruit and plants look quite healthy but are they likely to ripen at this stage of the year?
The fruit is quite large...maybe this is not a black after all???
What is the difference in the taste?
Thanks.
Liyarra
Broadford Victoria
2nd May 2009 12:53am
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Perth
2nd May 2009 10:16am
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Peter Myers says...
Liyarra,
Black passionfruits are the kind to grow in Victoria.
If they don't ripen now, they'll ripen later.
If your area is frosty, you might be best to cover the vines with a mesh that lets light through. Bunnings sell one to keep birds off fruit. That might do. Also, you might wrap the stems of the vines with a layer of newspaper (tape it on). This will save them even if the tops die.
Peter
Liyarra,
Black passionfruits are the kind to grow in Victoria.
If they don't ripen now, they'll ripen later.
If your area is frosty, you might be best to cover the vines with a mesh that lets light through. Bunnings sell one to keep birds off fruit. That might do. Also, you might wrap the stems of the vines with a layer of newspaper (tape it on). This will save them even if the tops die.
Peter
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Childers
2nd May 2009 11:09am
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Relly says...
Hi all, i'm having problems with both my panama gold and big boppa, they are being attacked by birds i think? I have not caught them in the act but not even the plastic snake keeps them away. All the new leaves have been pecked at or snapped off the vine. Was hoping for some advice about a spray that tastes bitter to birds.
Thanks in advance.
Hi all, i'm having problems with both my panama gold and big boppa, they are being attacked by birds i think? I have not caught them in the act but not even the plastic snake keeps them away. All the new leaves have been pecked at or snapped off the vine. Was hoping for some advice about a spray that tastes bitter to birds.
Thanks in advance.
Relly
Townsville
9th May 2009 7:13pm
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geraldton WA
10th May 2009 6:19pm
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Brenda
Perth
12th May 2009 7:07pm
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Leanne says...
Does anyone have a grafted Nelly Kelly passion fruit vine with fruit that is ripening? Mine is about 12 -18 months old and started producing fruit a couple of months ago. They are a nice size and there are about a dozen of them, but they are still bright green and shiny and no sign of ripening. Just wondering if anyone elses are ripening at the moment.
Does anyone have a grafted Nelly Kelly passion fruit vine with fruit that is ripening? Mine is about 12 -18 months old and started producing fruit a couple of months ago. They are a nice size and there are about a dozen of them, but they are still bright green and shiny and no sign of ripening. Just wondering if anyone elses are ripening at the moment.
Leanne
15th May 2009 10:50pm
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randey says...
hello leanne, i live in perth and yes i have a nelly kelly that stretches over 5 metres along a north/ south fence that has gone ballistic with fruit and is just starting to ripen. there would be approx 100 fruit so far and its still flowering. just be patient. i have noticed that some vines will ripen at different times to others even in the same area. good luck
hello leanne, i live in perth and yes i have a nelly kelly that stretches over 5 metres along a north/ south fence that has gone ballistic with fruit and is just starting to ripen. there would be approx 100 fruit so far and its still flowering. just be patient. i have noticed that some vines will ripen at different times to others even in the same area. good luck
randey
perth
16th May 2009 8:58am
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amanda
geraldton WA
16th May 2009 11:05am
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geraldton WA
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Julie
Roleystone WA
16th May 2009 6:37pm
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marilyn says...
I have a grafted Black Nelly Kelly from Bunnings. It is a year old, beautiful foliage covered with flowers that are dropping. The trunk above the graft is shrinking into sunken dark lines. It think it is a virus and it is the third vine from Bunnings that has died like this. Is there anything I can spray it with to save it or is it doomed.
I have a grafted Black Nelly Kelly from Bunnings. It is a year old, beautiful foliage covered with flowers that are dropping. The trunk above the graft is shrinking into sunken dark lines. It think it is a virus and it is the third vine from Bunnings that has died like this. Is there anything I can spray it with to save it or is it doomed.
marilyn
Freshwater
17th May 2009 1:42pm
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amanda says...
If it's a virus the plant is doomed I'm afraid. If it dies make sure u bin or burn it and don't plant another vine there again - I wouldn't know for sure but if it's a wilt virus then it's fatal. Try something else see the forum topic "passiflora vareties - peter mentioned the black NK's not so great.
If it's a virus the plant is doomed I'm afraid. If it dies make sure u bin or burn it and don't plant another vine there again - I wouldn't know for sure but if it's a wilt virus then it's fatal. Try something else see the forum topic "passiflora vareties - peter mentioned the black NK's not so great.
amanda
geraldton WA
17th May 2009 7:35pm
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perth
18th May 2009 8:22pm
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glendawn
Hivesville Qld
19th May 2009 10:03pm
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amanda says...
This has some good info for passionfruit growers:
http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/horticulture/5524.htmlite
This has some good info for passionfruit growers:
http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/horticulture/5524.htmlite
amanda
geraldton WA
23rd May 2009 7:44pm
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kevin
geraldton
28th May 2009 2:53am
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amanda says...
Hi Kevin try:
www.dpi.qld.gov.au
select "plants" header - u will find it under fruit -> fruit and nuts.
Hi Kevin try:
www.dpi.qld.gov.au
select "plants" header - u will find it under fruit -> fruit and nuts.
amanda
gerladton.wa
28th May 2009 9:16am
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charlie says...
this is all really interesting, I have a fantastic passionfruit stretching an entire two fence lines, with loads of flowers and fruit this year, but all of a sudden there are huge patches of yellow leaves that drop off leaving that patch quite bare, i have a problem with green ant nests and at the moment those enormous crickets that i try to wallop but they see me coming and jump, any ideas on this please????
this is all really interesting, I have a fantastic passionfruit stretching an entire two fence lines, with loads of flowers and fruit this year, but all of a sudden there are huge patches of yellow leaves that drop off leaving that patch quite bare, i have a problem with green ant nests and at the moment those enormous crickets that i try to wallop but they see me coming and jump, any ideas on this please????
charlie
cairns far north queensland
28th May 2009 2:57pm
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Liyarra says...
Ok. My plants are doing brilliantly and there are over 100 fruit on it. One finally ripened and to my dismay it really doesn't look like a black. Went to the supermarket and bought a black to compare - see photos here (shop "Black" on the left - our passionfruit on the right) Can anyone tell me what this sort is please?? I am being told it HAS to be a black cos none of the others will grow that well in Victoria.....confused and miffed!!! The pulp on our fruit was really orange in color and very sweet so I guess not a total loss. Vine is still flowering and fruit is dark shiny green.
Ok. My plants are doing brilliantly and there are over 100 fruit on it. One finally ripened and to my dismay it really doesn't look like a black. Went to the supermarket and bought a black to compare - see photos here (shop "Black" on the left - our passionfruit on the right) Can anyone tell me what this sort is please?? I am being told it HAS to be a black cos none of the others will grow that well in Victoria.....confused and miffed!!! The pulp on our fruit was really orange in color and very sweet so I guess not a total loss. Vine is still flowering and fruit is dark shiny green.
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Liyarra
Broadford Victoria
28th May 2009 3:50pm
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Broadford Victoria
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28th May 2009 4:05pm
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Liyarra says...
Thanks Amanda.
The fruit looks healthy and the sheer amount on it at the moment is enough to make you drool LOL
Just frustrating that you think you plant one thing and something else comes out of it. We were meticulous about making sure nothing grew out from below the graft and the plant itself looks ok.
Oh well I guess it is an excuse to plant more somewhere else.....can never have too many passionfruit. Maybe I will try growing from a black store bought fruit.
Anyone tell me the best way to do this please??
Thanks Amanda.
The fruit looks healthy and the sheer amount on it at the moment is enough to make you drool LOL
Just frustrating that you think you plant one thing and something else comes out of it. We were meticulous about making sure nothing grew out from below the graft and the plant itself looks ok.
Oh well I guess it is an excuse to plant more somewhere else.....can never have too many passionfruit. Maybe I will try growing from a black store bought fruit.
Anyone tell me the best way to do this please??
Liyarra
Broadford Victoria
28th May 2009 4:13pm
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tecko
perth
28th May 2009 4:21pm
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Julie says...
tecko, you might be having the same problem a few of us have mentioned -flowering out of season. We had such a long spell of dry, warm weather in Perth, a lot of plants seemed to think it was spring!
Maybe not, as I don't know when that variety of passionfruit usually fruits. I'v only grown Nelly Kelly, which fruited in summer.
tecko, you might be having the same problem a few of us have mentioned -flowering out of season. We had such a long spell of dry, warm weather in Perth, a lot of plants seemed to think it was spring!
Maybe not, as I don't know when that variety of passionfruit usually fruits. I'v only grown Nelly Kelly, which fruited in summer.
Julie
Roleystone WA
28th May 2009 8:30pm
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Seabee says...
Mad passionfruit! We have 2 grafted Nelly Kelly's and were starting to wonder whether to pull them out after 3 years of no fruit, then lo & behold they are covered in huge green fruit! but we are not far off our first frost and it seems a really strange time to start fruiting. Is this normal for mid NSW?.
They are along the verandah and have some protection from the extremes.
We would appreciate any suggestions.
Mad passionfruit! We have 2 grafted Nelly Kelly's and were starting to wonder whether to pull them out after 3 years of no fruit, then lo & behold they are covered in huge green fruit! but we are not far off our first frost and it seems a really strange time to start fruiting. Is this normal for mid NSW?.
They are along the verandah and have some protection from the extremes.
We would appreciate any suggestions.
Seabee
Coolamon NSW
5th June 2009 5:53pm
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randey says...
same here guys , my plant has gone ballistic with growth and fruit after i spread blood and bone and sulfate of potash and on occasion fish heads after i had been fishing. mine is planted on a boundary fence within a metre of a brick wall so it is obviously getting enough heat from that but i agree that the poor thing thinks that it is still spring/summer. i only hope that the fruit ripens properly.
same here guys , my plant has gone ballistic with growth and fruit after i spread blood and bone and sulfate of potash and on occasion fish heads after i had been fishing. mine is planted on a boundary fence within a metre of a brick wall so it is obviously getting enough heat from that but i agree that the poor thing thinks that it is still spring/summer. i only hope that the fruit ripens properly.
randey
perth
7th June 2009 9:50pm
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amanda says...
And we all wait with bated breath for a mid-winter passionfruit feast... :))
Mine starting to go crinkly..but still green with a slight Pan.red blush..fingers crossed!
Randey - I honestly reckon a masonary wall is the best for passionfruit! and an old-timer told me 2day that further south in the colder areas - a metal-sheet wall (colour-bond etc) - is the duck-guts for these guys.
And we all wait with bated breath for a mid-winter passionfruit feast... :))
Mine starting to go crinkly..but still green with a slight Pan.red blush..fingers crossed!
Randey - I honestly reckon a masonary wall is the best for passionfruit! and an old-timer told me 2day that further south in the colder areas - a metal-sheet wall (colour-bond etc) - is the duck-guts for these guys.
amanda
geraldton.WA
7th June 2009 11:32pm
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perth
11th June 2009 6:38pm
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amanda says...
Bananas + passionfruit - please tell me happens? I don't reckon the blighters will ripen till spring at least!!?? It's sunnier here so I will be the first to let u know :))) ('specially as I am the northern-most WA member here so far..?)
I tried one of mine yesterday - chokka with pulp etc but yukk! I am going to keep the water up to them and wait patiently (...not)
All these gardeners on the forum n no-one can tell us what's going to happen...???
Bananas + passionfruit - please tell me happens? I don't reckon the blighters will ripen till spring at least!!?? It's sunnier here so I will be the first to let u know :))) ('specially as I am the northern-most WA member here so far..?)
I tried one of mine yesterday - chokka with pulp etc but yukk! I am going to keep the water up to them and wait patiently (...not)
All these gardeners on the forum n no-one can tell us what's going to happen...???
amanda
geraldton.WA
11th June 2009 11:37pm
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perth
15th June 2009 11:15pm
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geraldton.WA
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perth
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geraldton.WA
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21st June 2009 10:17am
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randey says...
hi amanda, if you called im sorry i missed it. we left perth at about 4;30 am on saturday and got back in last night at 9 pm. i did manage to pick up a couple of passionfruit that have red seeds. i have no idea what these little suckers are, but the plant i got them off was really sickly looking, obviously never been fed or watered before. it may even be a native. any ideas
hi amanda, if you called im sorry i missed it. we left perth at about 4;30 am on saturday and got back in last night at 9 pm. i did manage to pick up a couple of passionfruit that have red seeds. i have no idea what these little suckers are, but the plant i got them off was really sickly looking, obviously never been fed or watered before. it may even be a native. any ideas
randey
perth
22nd June 2009 2:15pm
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amanda says...
Hi Randey - I will still give u a buzz - was a bit hectic here with o/seas rellies visitng. How's this weather...20mm in the gauge yesterday and still more to come!? I put out 100kg's of wetta-soil last nite..if that doesn't get my sub-soil wet then I will give up! ;)
Don't know about the passionfruit - was it from someone u know?
Hi Randey - I will still give u a buzz - was a bit hectic here with o/seas rellies visitng. How's this weather...20mm in the gauge yesterday and still more to come!? I put out 100kg's of wetta-soil last nite..if that doesn't get my sub-soil wet then I will give up! ;)
Don't know about the passionfruit - was it from someone u know?
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geraldton.WA
24th June 2009 9:45am
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Ant'S says...
I have 1 black Nelly Kelly and 1 Panama Gold passionfruit plants 12/18 months old. In summer both produced 2 dz of nice & sweet fruits. Late Feb this year they started flowering like crazy, at present they about 400 fruits , some ripening but not sweet enough, anybody knows why? I feed deluted cow & chicken manure and sodium of potash.
Thanks Ant'S
I have 1 black Nelly Kelly and 1 Panama Gold passionfruit plants 12/18 months old. In summer both produced 2 dz of nice & sweet fruits. Late Feb this year they started flowering like crazy, at present they about 400 fruits , some ripening but not sweet enough, anybody knows why? I feed deluted cow & chicken manure and sodium of potash.
Thanks Ant'S
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26th June 2009 10:34am
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amanda says...
Hi Ant'S..mine are a bit the same - I have put it down to ripening in the cool weather - the fruit not producing enuf' sugars..? I had 2 of mine 2day and put about a 1/4 teaspoon of (low GI) sugar in the halves..they were good enuf' for me! :) U could try leaving them on the vine longer - until they crinkle maybe.
Hi Ant'S..mine are a bit the same - I have put it down to ripening in the cool weather - the fruit not producing enuf' sugars..? I had 2 of mine 2day and put about a 1/4 teaspoon of (low GI) sugar in the halves..they were good enuf' for me! :) U could try leaving them on the vine longer - until they crinkle maybe.
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geraldton.WA
26th June 2009 8:40pm
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randey says...
hi amanda, yes it was from my neices place but she is only renting the house and doesnt know its lineage. it may be a munted version of either passiflora herbertiana ( native passionfruit )or even passiflora mollissima (banana passionfruit). i will plant the seeds and see what comes up. a lot of these sub species do actually grow from seed and fruit
hi amanda, yes it was from my neices place but she is only renting the house and doesnt know its lineage. it may be a munted version of either passiflora herbertiana ( native passionfruit )or even passiflora mollissima (banana passionfruit). i will plant the seeds and see what comes up. a lot of these sub species do actually grow from seed and fruit
randey
perth
27th June 2009 2:39pm
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amanda says...
Hi Randey - that passionfruit sounds interesting - is the actual seed red?
Never heard of it myself (but that's not surprising...) I used to eat a lot of Banana pass' when a child but the seeds weren't red and the leaf (as u probly already know) is quite distinctive. I have had the 'stinker' (foedita?) up north and the seeds dark grey (actually not bad fruit..!)
Let us know how u get on with it hey?
PS - my subsoil wet for only the 2nd time in 4yrs... :)))) yippee..!
Hi Randey - that passionfruit sounds interesting - is the actual seed red?
Never heard of it myself (but that's not surprising...) I used to eat a lot of Banana pass' when a child but the seeds weren't red and the leaf (as u probly already know) is quite distinctive. I have had the 'stinker' (foedita?) up north and the seeds dark grey (actually not bad fruit..!)
Let us know how u get on with it hey?
PS - my subsoil wet for only the 2nd time in 4yrs... :)))) yippee..!
amanda
geraldton.WA
27th June 2009 7:46pm
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randey says...
hey amanda, yes the actual seed is red surrounded by red pulp. the fruit itself was pretty small and munted but had enough in it to give me a taste. it seems that it would be pretty sweet given a bit of tlc, and yes i would love to have a "stinker", they are similar to the ones you get in indonesia. yellow skin grey seed pouch and absolutely full of sweet flesh. oh oh better stop i`m starting to drool
hey amanda, yes the actual seed is red surrounded by red pulp. the fruit itself was pretty small and munted but had enough in it to give me a taste. it seems that it would be pretty sweet given a bit of tlc, and yes i would love to have a "stinker", they are similar to the ones you get in indonesia. yellow skin grey seed pouch and absolutely full of sweet flesh. oh oh better stop i`m starting to drool
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29th June 2009 6:07pm
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1st July 2009 6:46am
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Fruity says...
Hi everyone
I have a passionfruit that's been in the ground (in good soil) for two years and though it's still alive it just refuses to grow. I planted it against trellis and behind where I grow great tomatoes, so is it the wrong venue?
Btw in the past, in a different garden, I grew passionfruits that went ballistic!
Hi everyone
I have a passionfruit that's been in the ground (in good soil) for two years and though it's still alive it just refuses to grow. I planted it against trellis and behind where I grow great tomatoes, so is it the wrong venue?
Btw in the past, in a different garden, I grew passionfruits that went ballistic!
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9th July 2009 9:55pm
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amanda says...
Dekka - I just read your post from long ago about the foliage developing spots etc as a deterrent to Heliconine butterflies (whatever they are?!) - did u see my post about passionfruit virus and the photo?
I will b interested about the diagnosis because the plant seems ok and fruits. It's just not very vigorous - but then that could b my fault..it's a bit out of sight - out of mind...
Dekka - I just read your post from long ago about the foliage developing spots etc as a deterrent to Heliconine butterflies (whatever they are?!) - did u see my post about passionfruit virus and the photo?
I will b interested about the diagnosis because the plant seems ok and fruits. It's just not very vigorous - but then that could b my fault..it's a bit out of sight - out of mind...
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20th July 2009 11:55pm
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21st July 2009 5:48am
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peter says...
have a look at the actual growing tips and see if they are healthy
ive noticed on some of mine that havnt been doing so well that the tips are small and deformed or scragly looking.
this may be a sign of a virus.
panama reds must be ripening at far
north qld during winterbecause i just bought some from woolworths which
come from there.
have a look at the actual growing tips and see if they are healthy
ive noticed on some of mine that havnt been doing so well that the tips are small and deformed or scragly looking.
this may be a sign of a virus.
panama reds must be ripening at far
north qld during winterbecause i just bought some from woolworths which
come from there.
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21st July 2009 7:34pm
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amanda says...
Hey Dekka - sorry - I should have posted 'the story'..I sent a fruit and this leaf down to agriculture dept and they said virus...it's now gone to the Uni for an ID. They said it depends what type as to how bad it will b.
The process is taking forever and I don't want to pull it out yet because essentially I don't see it as a problem (however it may b for an industry - so then of course i would remove it)
The leaves generally cup upwards - it's quite noticable and the growth is just not vigorous for a p'fruit. The fruit was really good! (but not a lot of it as yet) and I didn't think it was woody at all.
I will have to wait 4 the diagnosis - but your post b4 got me thinking i guess - as the speckling really does look like moth eggs etc. Seems p'fruit can acquire a vast range of viral diseases...I am wondering if maybe we over-react to some of them?
I feel a bit embarrassed about the loquat thing - my soil not deficient in Mg at all (nor in the H2O)...
lesson: don't rely on local advice! ;)
Hey Dekka - sorry - I should have posted 'the story'..I sent a fruit and this leaf down to agriculture dept and they said virus...it's now gone to the Uni for an ID. They said it depends what type as to how bad it will b.
The process is taking forever and I don't want to pull it out yet because essentially I don't see it as a problem (however it may b for an industry - so then of course i would remove it)
The leaves generally cup upwards - it's quite noticable and the growth is just not vigorous for a p'fruit. The fruit was really good! (but not a lot of it as yet) and I didn't think it was woody at all.
I will have to wait 4 the diagnosis - but your post b4 got me thinking i guess - as the speckling really does look like moth eggs etc. Seems p'fruit can acquire a vast range of viral diseases...I am wondering if maybe we over-react to some of them?
I feel a bit embarrassed about the loquat thing - my soil not deficient in Mg at all (nor in the H2O)...
lesson: don't rely on local advice! ;)
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21st July 2009 7:48pm
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jono says...
haven't sent anything since April when I suggested spraying vines with diluted milk. This does work as it adds a number of elements to the growing vine similiar to sulphate of potash.My vines have still many fruit which are all turning crimson red however to date only two have reached the sweet edible stage. I am sure the weather has caused the fruit to forget when it is supposed to ripen. Can anyone give me a guide as to pruning the vines as spring is just around the corner.
haven't sent anything since April when I suggested spraying vines with diluted milk. This does work as it adds a number of elements to the growing vine similiar to sulphate of potash.My vines have still many fruit which are all turning crimson red however to date only two have reached the sweet edible stage. I am sure the weather has caused the fruit to forget when it is supposed to ripen. Can anyone give me a guide as to pruning the vines as spring is just around the corner.
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23rd July 2009 9:38am
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Dekka says...
Hi, Amanda
I found a site with info that made me think of your soil and water issues.
http://www.home-garden-soil-improvement.com/lime-gypsum.html
Are you certain that your Mg is available Mg?
Hi, Amanda
I found a site with info that made me think of your soil and water issues.
http://www.home-garden-soil-improvement.com/lime-gypsum.html
Are you certain that your Mg is available Mg?
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23rd July 2009 7:49pm
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amanda says...
Hey Dekka - thanks for that! - had a brief look at site - it explains lots. Will study after kiddy tuck in. Much appreciated.
To be honest - this Ca:Mg thing is all new to me - I have handed the soil test over to an agronomist in Perth who specialises in Horticulture to help me out! (they all broadacre specialists here)
For what it's worth the results were:
Exchangeable Mg% = 15-20%
Exchangeable Na% = 2-5%
Ca:Mg ranges from 3.6 - 6.1 in the 6 samples. (eg ratio 3.6 for A sample)
(No Ca% given/tested)
On the table that is Low<->Int<->High:
The Mg% cations = Intermediate
The Na% cations = Intermediate
The Ca:Mg ratio = Intermediate
The salt content = Intermediate
And on another table Low-Marginal-Sufficient-High-Excess
And the Chloride is "sufficient"
(whatever that means!?)
Also the water test hardness = 145 mg/L
I will really have to activate some grey matter and think about these :) Do they make any sense to u?
Hey Dekka - thanks for that! - had a brief look at site - it explains lots. Will study after kiddy tuck in. Much appreciated.
To be honest - this Ca:Mg thing is all new to me - I have handed the soil test over to an agronomist in Perth who specialises in Horticulture to help me out! (they all broadacre specialists here)
For what it's worth the results were:
Exchangeable Mg% = 15-20%
Exchangeable Na% = 2-5%
Ca:Mg ranges from 3.6 - 6.1 in the 6 samples. (eg ratio 3.6 for A sample)
(No Ca% given/tested)
On the table that is Low<->Int<->High:
The Mg% cations = Intermediate
The Na% cations = Intermediate
The Ca:Mg ratio = Intermediate
The salt content = Intermediate
And on another table Low-Marginal-Sufficient-High-Excess
And the Chloride is "sufficient"
(whatever that means!?)
Also the water test hardness = 145 mg/L
I will really have to activate some grey matter and think about these :) Do they make any sense to u?
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23rd July 2009 8:33pm
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amanda says...
Hi Brendan/Ellen...shop around too..a 5kg bag gypsum in Bunnings = $11. I get a 25kg bag from a local rural supplier for $20...!! The fine grade (like talc) works faster but the coarse grade lasts longer and thus works for longer period of time.
I find Bunnings really expensive myself - their retic fittings are 3 times the price of our local retic people/shop for eg. Has anyone else noticed this?
Hi Brendan/Ellen...shop around too..a 5kg bag gypsum in Bunnings = $11. I get a 25kg bag from a local rural supplier for $20...!! The fine grade (like talc) works faster but the coarse grade lasts longer and thus works for longer period of time.
I find Bunnings really expensive myself - their retic fittings are 3 times the price of our local retic people/shop for eg. Has anyone else noticed this?
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29th July 2009 9:42am
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Ellen says...
Amanda,
It's true Bunnings' prices are getting up there, I noticed it as well, as I was shoppings for materials to set up my mini garden for Espalier it.
2 bolts eyes with washers = $3.35 75mm in length.
1 galvanised post of 100mm x 100mm (2.25m in length) = $42
= Bunnings
1 bolt with washer = #1.30 (local hardware)
1 galvanised post of 100mm x 100mm ( 7.2 m in length) = $37.50 (plus they will cut it to the customer preferred in sizes and drilled holes already in it as your required preference)
= local hardware near by .
and delivery charge is only half the price compared to what Bunnings charged for delivery too .
BTW regarding the powder lime, I just sprinkle it as is around the plant and that's it?
Amanda,
It's true Bunnings' prices are getting up there, I noticed it as well, as I was shoppings for materials to set up my mini garden for Espalier it.
2 bolts eyes with washers = $3.35 75mm in length.
1 galvanised post of 100mm x 100mm (2.25m in length) = $42
= Bunnings
1 bolt with washer = #1.30 (local hardware)
1 galvanised post of 100mm x 100mm ( 7.2 m in length) = $37.50 (plus they will cut it to the customer preferred in sizes and drilled holes already in it as your required preference)
= local hardware near by .
and delivery charge is only half the price compared to what Bunnings charged for delivery too .
BTW regarding the powder lime, I just sprinkle it as is around the plant and that's it?
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29th July 2009 11:07am
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Julie says...
Given a choice, I never shop at Bunnings. They have put so many small hardware stores out of business, and now it seems (from this post) they are not even cheaper! Yet this has always been their claim.
I would rather go to a small store and get personal service and advice from an experienced person.
Given a choice, I never shop at Bunnings. They have put so many small hardware stores out of business, and now it seems (from this post) they are not even cheaper! Yet this has always been their claim.
I would rather go to a small store and get personal service and advice from an experienced person.
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Roleystone WA
29th July 2009 4:14pm
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amanda says...
Hi Ellen n Julie,
Yes just sprinkle and water in...
I always support my local guys 2...they even know my name and we stop n chat (which i love 2 do as u may have noticed ;)...) I get great advice and help from them.
And the Bunnings claim that they will "beat the price by 10%" - I tried it once - what a rigmarole! never again.
A tap valve at my local retic = about $3 - the exact same one @ Bunnings $7...why is this with their bulk buying power? It's a sham i reckon.
They have put 3 local nurseries out of business here - so now there is no variety and many inappropriate selections for our area (= fuschias!!??) Ok - enuf whinging from me :)
Hi Ellen n Julie,
Yes just sprinkle and water in...
I always support my local guys 2...they even know my name and we stop n chat (which i love 2 do as u may have noticed ;)...) I get great advice and help from them.
And the Bunnings claim that they will "beat the price by 10%" - I tried it once - what a rigmarole! never again.
A tap valve at my local retic = about $3 - the exact same one @ Bunnings $7...why is this with their bulk buying power? It's a sham i reckon.
They have put 3 local nurseries out of business here - so now there is no variety and many inappropriate selections for our area (= fuschias!!??) Ok - enuf whinging from me :)
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Geraldton. WA
29th July 2009 4:50pm
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Roleystone WA
30th July 2009 6:30pm
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Liz says...
...Bunnings price comparisons with other places vary... I have found them more expensive on a number of things, but cheaper on others... the main advantage from my point of view is that I can get there when they're open (or if I suddenly realise at 8:30pm on a Tuesday night that I don't have something I need to finish something I'm in the middle of...), and they usually have what I want... nothing to do with advertising, I promise! ;-)
...I agree that it's better to have the little local businesses that are more responsive to local needs/conditions... but I'm afraid that the convenience wins out in the interests of getting things done in my ridiculously busy life!
...Bunnings price comparisons with other places vary... I have found them more expensive on a number of things, but cheaper on others... the main advantage from my point of view is that I can get there when they're open (or if I suddenly realise at 8:30pm on a Tuesday night that I don't have something I need to finish something I'm in the middle of...), and they usually have what I want... nothing to do with advertising, I promise! ;-)
...I agree that it's better to have the little local businesses that are more responsive to local needs/conditions... but I'm afraid that the convenience wins out in the interests of getting things done in my ridiculously busy life!
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31st July 2009 2:11pm
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amanda says...
Hi Passionfruit growers - this was the verdict from the Ag Dept(on the passionfruit pictured):
Brenda Coutts sent your plant to a University specialist for identification. Your passionfruit was diagnosed with woodiness virus, for which there is no control. There are mild, medium and severe strains of this virus. The disease is worse in cool weather. Plants can sometimes recover with the mild strains, but the severe strain will result in greatly reduced yields and quality.
She claims all passionfruit have viruses. Mine have a poty virus but are doing quite well.
John Burt
Hi Passionfruit growers - this was the verdict from the Ag Dept(on the passionfruit pictured):
Brenda Coutts sent your plant to a University specialist for identification. Your passionfruit was diagnosed with woodiness virus, for which there is no control. There are mild, medium and severe strains of this virus. The disease is worse in cool weather. Plants can sometimes recover with the mild strains, but the severe strain will result in greatly reduced yields and quality.
She claims all passionfruit have viruses. Mine have a poty virus but are doing quite well.
John Burt
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1st August 2009 11:14am
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peter says...
hi amanda,
is this vine with the virus the sunshine
special that you have only one of?
just remembered reading a post a while back which said some viruses travel up
the stem and branches in the sap and
you can heavily fertilize the vine
with high levels of phosporous which
makes the growing tips grow quickly
and out run the virus.
you can then take the tips and strike
a cutting which will be virus free.
hi amanda,
is this vine with the virus the sunshine
special that you have only one of?
just remembered reading a post a while back which said some viruses travel up
the stem and branches in the sap and
you can heavily fertilize the vine
with high levels of phosporous which
makes the growing tips grow quickly
and out run the virus.
you can then take the tips and strike
a cutting which will be virus free.
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1st August 2009 5:52pm
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amanda says...
Ummm.. the sunshine has a bit more of the black/purple flavour to it (ie: more character) and I think it would do better (the sunshine) in cooler conditions. It's a bigger fruit and lots of pulp. As far as mine goes I think it's a winner - could b better without the virus - but definitely superior to traditional black/purples.
Unless u have a nice warm spot for a panama then u may want to look closer at this one Peter. It's one of the main commercial varieties and they don't back losers! :)
I am going to get one from Daleys at some stage and give it another go for sure.
Ummm.. the sunshine has a bit more of the black/purple flavour to it (ie: more character) and I think it would do better (the sunshine) in cooler conditions. It's a bigger fruit and lots of pulp. As far as mine goes I think it's a winner - could b better without the virus - but definitely superior to traditional black/purples.
Unless u have a nice warm spot for a panama then u may want to look closer at this one Peter. It's one of the main commercial varieties and they don't back losers! :)
I am going to get one from Daleys at some stage and give it another go for sure.
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1st August 2009 8:21pm
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1st August 2009 8:40pm
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amanda says...
Wow - must b a big glasshouse Peter! I think u will b happy with both selections to b honest..the panama seems to be a prolific bearer wherever I have seen it (in warm climates) but the sunshine is obviously a tough customer..and the fruit is equal at least (I think I mentioned b4 I am a p'fruit addict - so they all taste wonderful to me - especially if I don't have to pay 2 bucks each for them!) Good luck! :)
Wow - must b a big glasshouse Peter! I think u will b happy with both selections to b honest..the panama seems to be a prolific bearer wherever I have seen it (in warm climates) but the sunshine is obviously a tough customer..and the fruit is equal at least (I think I mentioned b4 I am a p'fruit addict - so they all taste wonderful to me - especially if I don't have to pay 2 bucks each for them!) Good luck! :)
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Jimmy says...
I just got myself a SEP sickle bar mower.
That would do a good job up there.
www.sep.it
I just got myself a SEP sickle bar mower.
That would do a good job up there.
www.sep.it
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california
30th August 2009 11:09am
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30th August 2009 1:44pm
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culebra says...
Do we have Ruby Glow Passionfruit in Aus?
i had not heard of it til now.
is this it?:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/53806/
if so i am already in love with the flower. its really something.
Do we have Ruby Glow Passionfruit in Aus?
i had not heard of it til now.
is this it?:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/53806/
if so i am already in love with the flower. its really something.
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30th August 2009 2:10pm
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mike says...
hi Jantina. the same growing conditions that would have for any plant. south facing location (in your case north facing) and rich loamy soil. I have the purple passion planted across from hoping for cross pollination for the past few years without any luck.
yes culebra that's it. the pics don't do the flower justice. the fragrance is absolutely intoxicating. it worth planting just for the showy bloom. Its mid summer in Southern California and the vine is already in bloom. these pics I took last year
hi Jantina. the same growing conditions that would have for any plant. south facing location (in your case north facing) and rich loamy soil. I have the purple passion planted across from hoping for cross pollination for the past few years without any luck.
yes culebra that's it. the pics don't do the flower justice. the fragrance is absolutely intoxicating. it worth planting just for the showy bloom. Its mid summer in Southern California and the vine is already in bloom. these pics I took last year
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31st August 2009 6:34am
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31st August 2009 10:53am
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31st August 2009 1:22pm
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peter says...
hi jantina,
yes you can get these in oz, or at least something almost identical, but im pretty sure its the same thing,
heaps of strong smelling flowers.
ive had one for a while now in my glass
house but nearly lost it last year during the heat wave.
i had it outside before that and it was flowering but was only young at the time
guess where i got it from.
hows the panama berry going?
hi jantina,
yes you can get these in oz, or at least something almost identical, but im pretty sure its the same thing,
heaps of strong smelling flowers.
ive had one for a while now in my glass
house but nearly lost it last year during the heat wave.
i had it outside before that and it was flowering but was only young at the time
guess where i got it from.
hows the panama berry going?
peter
adelaide
31st August 2009 6:51pm
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Jantina says...
Hi Peter, you're not going to say Bunnings surely! Has yours fruited? The Panama berry thought it was a tad cold here and decided to drop it's leaves but under the bark it's still nice and green so it will probably sprout again soon. Going to put it somewhere warmer next winter so it keeps fruiting, I like having a little snack as I go by.
Hi Peter, you're not going to say Bunnings surely! Has yours fruited? The Panama berry thought it was a tad cold here and decided to drop it's leaves but under the bark it's still nice and green so it will probably sprout again soon. Going to put it somewhere warmer next winter so it keeps fruiting, I like having a little snack as I go by.
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31st August 2009 8:36pm
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peter says...
hi jantina,
amanda said to toby and peter so i asumed she was saying that id got the plant from daleys.
which is in fact correct.
they have some listed as being in stock at the moment but having second thoughts about your colder climate i think it may struggle unless you have a warm spot for it or your could cover it with clear plastic over winter.
hi jantina,
amanda said to toby and peter so i asumed she was saying that id got the plant from daleys.
which is in fact correct.
they have some listed as being in stock at the moment but having second thoughts about your colder climate i think it may struggle unless you have a warm spot for it or your could cover it with clear plastic over winter.
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adelaide
2nd September 2009 9:52pm
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3rd September 2009 10:03am
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peter says...
hi jantina,
the one i am refering to is the sweet
lilliko which is also refered to as
passiflora alata and the fragrant
granadilla. technically it is not a ruby
glow bit if you do a search on ruby glow
it is said that the ruby glow is commonly refered to as passiflora alata.
the leaves, stems, and flowers are exactly the same as well as having an
extremly strong scent hence the name
fragrant granadilla.
hi jantina,
the one i am refering to is the sweet
lilliko which is also refered to as
passiflora alata and the fragrant
granadilla. technically it is not a ruby
glow bit if you do a search on ruby glow
it is said that the ruby glow is commonly refered to as passiflora alata.
the leaves, stems, and flowers are exactly the same as well as having an
extremly strong scent hence the name
fragrant granadilla.
peter
adelaide
3rd September 2009 6:28pm
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Jantina
Mt. Gambier S.A.
3rd September 2009 7:22pm
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Geraldton. WA
6th September 2009 9:53am
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Jantina
Mt. Gambier S.A.
6th September 2009 11:19am
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Toby says...
Hi Amanda - re the panama berry - Daley's had at least 1 today and I was so excited as I managed to add it to my order - only to get the message "WA quarantine won't allow these" or something.
I contacted Daley's pleading for them to hold it for me while I asked quarantine if it was possible to import but Kath contacted me and said they don't send them to WA. So it's back to the drawing board for me, and the panama berry has sold now anyway. :(
Hi Amanda - re the panama berry - Daley's had at least 1 today and I was so excited as I managed to add it to my order - only to get the message "WA quarantine won't allow these" or something.
I contacted Daley's pleading for them to hold it for me while I asked quarantine if it was possible to import but Kath contacted me and said they don't send them to WA. So it's back to the drawing board for me, and the panama berry has sold now anyway. :(
Toby
Perth, WA
8th September 2009 11:13am
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amanda says...
Hi Toby ... WA Quarantine is becoming very tiresome isn't it?? I understand the need for it but there are so many things they DO allow that are just as bad....but then WA has always been regarded as a Nanny state..? Cape gooseberries are already here...so why ban them? People who want to buy panama berries are possibly mature gardeners that wouldn't let it get out of control anyway...who wants a rampant weed?
I think it sucks personally. :(
Hi Toby ... WA Quarantine is becoming very tiresome isn't it?? I understand the need for it but there are so many things they DO allow that are just as bad....but then WA has always been regarded as a Nanny state..? Cape gooseberries are already here...so why ban them? People who want to buy panama berries are possibly mature gardeners that wouldn't let it get out of control anyway...who wants a rampant weed?
I think it sucks personally. :(
amanda
Geraldton. WA
8th September 2009 7:55pm
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Jimmy
9th September 2009 1:16pm
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Jantina
Mt. Gambier S.A.
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au0rey
melbourne
17th October 2009 9:51pm
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Wayne
Mackay QLD
23rd October 2009 11:51am
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Phil says...
Yes this is commonly grown and easily available in Australia, you should be able to get seeds sent without any problem. I had some seed of P. antioquiensis sent to me by a generous member of this forum and have just noticed they are germinating today. It is a beautiful plant with a huge flower. I have high hopes for this species.
Yes this is commonly grown and easily available in Australia, you should be able to get seeds sent without any problem. I had some seed of P. antioquiensis sent to me by a generous member of this forum and have just noticed they are germinating today. It is a beautiful plant with a huge flower. I have high hopes for this species.
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Phil
Murwillumbah
23rd October 2009 12:17pm
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Pottsville NSW
24th October 2009 10:00am
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24th October 2009 12:58pm
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Phil
Murwillumbah
24th October 2009 2:41pm
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Pottsville NSW
25th October 2009 7:33pm
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Armin says...
Phil, I wish you best of luck in growing the p.antioquiensis. After 5 years of trying it has me beat! I really don't like your chances in Murwillumbah/Northern NSW.
Of well over 100 plants which I have germinated from seed not one even reached half way to maturity. About the largest I could get them to grow is as per the plants in the back row of the photo.
p.antioquiensis really does live up to its reputation of being the most tempramental passiflora to grow!
Phil, I wish you best of luck in growing the p.antioquiensis. After 5 years of trying it has me beat! I really don't like your chances in Murwillumbah/Northern NSW.
Of well over 100 plants which I have germinated from seed not one even reached half way to maturity. About the largest I could get them to grow is as per the plants in the back row of the photo.
p.antioquiensis really does live up to its reputation of being the most tempramental passiflora to grow!
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Armin
Sydney/Straddie
8th November 2009 12:03am
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Jantina
Mt. Gambier S.A.
8th November 2009 9:32am
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Armin says...
Hi Jantina,
I have learned so much about growing p.atioquiensis over the past 5 years of research and in which time I have unsucessfully tried to grow it.
It comes down to it being a very, very sensitive/temperamental plant to grow. It hasn't adapted very well from the growing conditions where it originates in the cool, overcast, mountainous regions of south America.
It germinates very easily from seed and it is very easy to grow healthy seedlings. The problem is when it gets to a few feet tall this is when it will often die very quicky and for no apparent reason. One minute it is thriving and healthy and virtually the next minute it is dead. It also is very susceptible to dieing from virus's. If you are growing it you need to make sure the soil is absolutely sterile. It has an extremely sensitive root system. I killed one entire batch once by accident since I transplanted the seedlings into black plastic pots. They were growing well but one day they were in too much direct sunlight and the heat of the black plastic pots heating up in the sun caused the soil to warm up enough to kill every single plant.
Since it originates from areas with cool mountain air it hates humidity. This is why in my opinion Phil will have trouble growing it in Murwillumbah. It would be great if he could prove me wrong! My seed originally came from NZ, USA and UK.
The photos below are of what the very healthy plants look like (right) and of a sick plant on its way to heaven.
I grow many exotic varieties of passifloras and the reason I wanted to grow p.antioquiensis in particular is because it undoubtedly is the most deliciously flavoursome of all of the edible passionfruit species.
If any Tasmanians are reading this I think it would grow very well in Tassie.
Hi Jantina,
I have learned so much about growing p.atioquiensis over the past 5 years of research and in which time I have unsucessfully tried to grow it.
It comes down to it being a very, very sensitive/temperamental plant to grow. It hasn't adapted very well from the growing conditions where it originates in the cool, overcast, mountainous regions of south America.
It germinates very easily from seed and it is very easy to grow healthy seedlings. The problem is when it gets to a few feet tall this is when it will often die very quicky and for no apparent reason. One minute it is thriving and healthy and virtually the next minute it is dead. It also is very susceptible to dieing from virus's. If you are growing it you need to make sure the soil is absolutely sterile. It has an extremely sensitive root system. I killed one entire batch once by accident since I transplanted the seedlings into black plastic pots. They were growing well but one day they were in too much direct sunlight and the heat of the black plastic pots heating up in the sun caused the soil to warm up enough to kill every single plant.
Since it originates from areas with cool mountain air it hates humidity. This is why in my opinion Phil will have trouble growing it in Murwillumbah. It would be great if he could prove me wrong! My seed originally came from NZ, USA and UK.
The photos below are of what the very healthy plants look like (right) and of a sick plant on its way to heaven.
I grow many exotic varieties of passifloras and the reason I wanted to grow p.antioquiensis in particular is because it undoubtedly is the most deliciously flavoursome of all of the edible passionfruit species.
If any Tasmanians are reading this I think it would grow very well in Tassie.
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Armin
Sydney/Straddie
8th November 2009 2:20pm
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Jantina
Mt. Gambier S.A.
8th November 2009 3:22pm
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Phil@Tyalgum
Murwillumbah
8th November 2009 6:53pm
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amanda says...
Hi Armin - thanks for the info! I have two banana passionfruit vines and one of them hs recently dropped all of it's leaves due to the hot easterly winds - it's very sad. The other one is a bit more sheltered and thus hanging in a bit better.
I doubt they will make it thru' our summer. It doesn't make any difference if I give them more water.
I am amazed they are considered a weed in some parts - as I find them very touchy!
The other passionfruits are thriving (panamas and blacks) in the sme positions. The difference in the leaves between the species really tells the story - the banana pass' leaves are so much softer and more fragile - indicating a need for the kind of climate you have mentioned maybe?
Hi Armin - thanks for the info! I have two banana passionfruit vines and one of them hs recently dropped all of it's leaves due to the hot easterly winds - it's very sad. The other one is a bit more sheltered and thus hanging in a bit better.
I doubt they will make it thru' our summer. It doesn't make any difference if I give them more water.
I am amazed they are considered a weed in some parts - as I find them very touchy!
The other passionfruits are thriving (panamas and blacks) in the sme positions. The difference in the leaves between the species really tells the story - the banana pass' leaves are so much softer and more fragile - indicating a need for the kind of climate you have mentioned maybe?
amanda
Geraldton. WA
13th November 2009 10:51am
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HappyEarth says...
Im not so sure that they are a weed ... at least not around sydney. The passionfruit that is very weedy is what is called blue passionfruit (not sure the botanical name) and looks different to banana passionfruit. It is generally the passionfruit used to graft other varieties onto it. It suckers very badly and is almost impossible to get rid off once established - even with poison. I see it coming up in our local bush regularly.
I grow the regular black passionfruit from seed and it fruits well!
Rich
www.happyearth.com.au
Im not so sure that they are a weed ... at least not around sydney. The passionfruit that is very weedy is what is called blue passionfruit (not sure the botanical name) and looks different to banana passionfruit. It is generally the passionfruit used to graft other varieties onto it. It suckers very badly and is almost impossible to get rid off once established - even with poison. I see it coming up in our local bush regularly.
I grow the regular black passionfruit from seed and it fruits well!
Rich
www.happyearth.com.au
HappyEarth
Wollongong
14th November 2009 7:08am
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Dekka says...
There's an awful lot of evidence that Banana Passionfruit is very nasty given the right conditions.
http://www.weeds.org.au/cgi-bin/weedident.cgi?tpl=plant.tpl&state=&s=&ibra=all&card=E04
http://www.weeds.asn.au/weeds/txts/psnfruit.html
http://www.au.gardenweb.com/forums/load/nzgard/msg0303212428974.html
There's an awful lot of evidence that Banana Passionfruit is very nasty given the right conditions.
http://www.weeds.org.au/cgi-bin/weedident.cgi?tpl=plant.tpl&state=&s=&ibra=all&card=E04
http://www.weeds.asn.au/weeds/txts/psnfruit.html
http://www.au.gardenweb.com/forums/load/nzgard/msg0303212428974.html
Dekka
Newcastle
14th November 2009 7:43am
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Brendan
Mackay, Q
14th November 2009 8:07am
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Geraldton. WA
14th November 2009 10:43am
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Armin says...
Hi Amanda,
I am surprised you can'y grow the common old banana passionfruit. It sure does grow as easy as a weed. I found two in the edge of the garden this afternoon which had germinated from seeds (from fallen fruit last season) growing in loose mulch.
They require so little care and grow like a rampant vine up any structure near by.
It is amazing that the common banana passionfruit (p.molissima) and the red banana passionfruit (p. antioquiensis) have almost identical looking leaves and are very closely related yet they are such different plants in their behaviour in the one grows like a weed and the other is so tempramental and virtually impossible to grow unless it has ideal conditions.
Hi Amanda,
I am surprised you can'y grow the common old banana passionfruit. It sure does grow as easy as a weed. I found two in the edge of the garden this afternoon which had germinated from seeds (from fallen fruit last season) growing in loose mulch.
They require so little care and grow like a rampant vine up any structure near by.
It is amazing that the common banana passionfruit (p.molissima) and the red banana passionfruit (p. antioquiensis) have almost identical looking leaves and are very closely related yet they are such different plants in their behaviour in the one grows like a weed and the other is so tempramental and virtually impossible to grow unless it has ideal conditions.
Armin
Sydney/Straddie
14th November 2009 9:57pm
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Sydney/Straddie
14th November 2009 10:01pm
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Phil@Tyalgum
Murwillumbah
14th November 2009 11:23pm
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Brendan says...
Hi amanda,
I got the Tropical Yellow passionfruit seeds from my brother, God knows where he got them from. I think I have some seeds if you want some. I'll have to check, as their 'use-by' date could be up too, I'll get back to you here:-)
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Hi amanda,
I got the Tropical Yellow passionfruit seeds from my brother, God knows where he got them from. I think I have some seeds if you want some. I'll have to check, as their 'use-by' date could be up too, I'll get back to you here:-)
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Brendan
Mackay, Q
15th November 2009 8:18am
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amanda says...
Thanks Brendan - I would love to try them! Here is a pic of mine - as u might be able to see - it's trying to grow over to the shady, sheltered side that has the acacia tree behind it and the branches on the right (exposed) have dropped all their leaves. It has a light pink flower.
Thanks Brendan - I would love to try them! Here is a pic of mine - as u might be able to see - it's trying to grow over to the shady, sheltered side that has the acacia tree behind it and the branches on the right (exposed) have dropped all their leaves. It has a light pink flower.
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Geraldton. WA
15th November 2009 11:04am
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Brendan says...
Hi amanda,
Gee I like your passionfruit trellis, way to go! What type and what does your fruit taste like?
Yep, I've found some Tropical Yellow passionfruit seeds. I might send some to Wayne (in Mky) too.
Just go back to my post yesterday and use the info on the bottom line. It's my email addy. Send me an email with your postal addy, and I will send you the goods. Don't think there's an easier way, is there?
Hi amanda,
Gee I like your passionfruit trellis, way to go! What type and what does your fruit taste like?
Yep, I've found some Tropical Yellow passionfruit seeds. I might send some to Wayne (in Mky) too.
Just go back to my post yesterday and use the info on the bottom line. It's my email addy. Send me an email with your postal addy, and I will send you the goods. Don't think there's an easier way, is there?
Brendan
Mackay, Q
16th November 2009 6:23am
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Geraldton. WA
16th November 2009 10:14am
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Brendan
Mackay, Q
18th November 2009 7:43am
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